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We have now messy bad standard forum font quality since (about) 05.08.2017

Discussion in 'Meta-forum Discussion' started by Quatum1000, Aug 8, 2017.

  1. Quatum1000

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    The web guys seems to have changed the font quality or switched to another system font property. As they change the header area of the forum I guess.

    On desktop browsers the text is washed out and it's bad to read on 100%. The original font is used is currently visible in the thread editor. The same font bad Font was used while the forum style was changed some month ago, and ppl hate it.

    Is there any chance to change the font back to its original quality by any user setting of the forum?
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    Untitled-1.jpg
     
    Last edited: Aug 8, 2017
  2. LaneFox

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    It's nice and sharp for me.
     
  3. Quatum1000

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    Does the text from the image (crispy old style ) looks the same for you as the text above on 100% ? Should be desktop at dpi 100%.
     
  4. LaneFox

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    Yeah it looks the same.
     
  5. Quatum1000

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    That looks pretty different to me.

    Untitled-2.jpg
     
  6. and-poulsen

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    We updated the font to match the brand on our other sites. It's now Roboto, where before it was Arial (Or Helvetica for macs).
    I do see that it looks slightly blurry on your screenshot - what OS and browser is this on?
     
  7. Quatum1000

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    I'm on PC Windows 7 - LG34" 2580x1080 - Firefox - 100DPI 32bit.
     
  8. The-Britain

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    It looks fine for me, though I'm not fond of the header. Luckily, I have ublock origin by gorhill for such things, like when Unreal decided that stupid forum header was a good idea.
     
  9. Quatum1000

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    The code part now use different fonts as well: Untitled-1.jpg
     
  10. Murgilod

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    Wow, I just checked the scripting forum and that is, in fact, a huge mess of a problem.
     
  11. Quatum1000

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    Basinga?
     
  12. Quatum1000

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    hey andreaspoulsen,

    I can follow to have a continuous match of your company brand and style, but in this case the forum is a daily working area for developers and forum users. Would it be a deal to let the users decide what default font he wana use by a option in the personal setup?
     
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  13. Player7

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    Yeah I notice this aswel.. I thought something was off since last week... but I wasn't on paying much attention since I was at a different place using a different computer/screen last week.. Now that I'm back home using my default system this forum really is a bit off putting now and I can't just be bothered to read or reply to any threads because this font sucks for how its being used now. If that was the goal you achieved it Unity.

    This bolder softer looking font is just not that nice for forum posts, tbh its not just that good for large amount of text at all.. its more for a short amount of text or a header.. weirdly enough the text input box is still using the older crisper font.

    Seriously.. its rubbish I don't like it.. its almost bordering on comic sans style now. The attached image that other guy posted is exactly how it looks for me aswel. (Win7 64x, Firefox)
     
  14. Quatum1000

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    I found a workaround in Firefox, but could display other web sites lite different.
    Firefox Preferences > Content > Advanced


    ff_pref.png

    Uncheck the ‘Allow pages to choose their own fonts, instead of my selections above’ to override a web page’s font settings and impose your own. In my case I must use Serif Size 16 instead of 26 on the image.

    ff_pref_fonts.png
     
  15. Player7

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    Using the firefox stylish addon css fix is a alot better than doing it that way..

    This works fine for me...
    Code (CSharp):
    1. @-moz-document domain("forum.unity3d.com") {
    2.   body {
    3.     font: 12px/1.0 arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif!important;
    4.    }
    5. }
    Also just realized I had old zolrans old dark Unity forum theme disabled, must have totally forgotten about it after the err can't remember the name of it forum switch over that didn't stick... goes nicely with the new header/footer..needs alot more color fixes, don't like the text selection colors etc .. probably just stick with the above font css fix for now.

    https://pastebin.com/raw/2meDtP0R
     
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  16. Quatum1000

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    Thanks, cool! I tried to enlarge the font from
    Code (CSharp):
    1. font: 12px/1.0 arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif!important;
    to 16px, but seems not work like that.
     
    Last edited: Aug 15, 2017 at 1:04 PM
  17. Player7

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    oh yeah the font size won't change because its overwritten elsewhere in the css ..message body font size can be adjusted by adding...

    .messageText {
    font-size: 1.25em!important; /*Seems to match the exact size as it was before */
    line-height: 1.2;
    }

    body {
    font-family: arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif!important;
    }
     
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  18. hippocoder

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    Style over substance is the most embarrassing disease of the tech sector at the moment. It's not clever.

    However the font change recently is nowhere near as bad as the previous lithium thin-font fiasco although this newer one is slightly blurry, I can live with it fine. But really, forums aren't about being a snowflake with nice text when it comes to game development. It's about clearly communicating, often with code.

    Please be careful with forum changes. Would be sad if people communicated better on rival forums.
     
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  19. and-poulsen

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    I have yet to see the font blurry myself in Chrome, Firefox or Safari - and I've checked on multiple systems and OS's. It looks odd in IE but that's about it, and that's expected. Does the font look blurry on https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Roboto ?
     
  20. Player7

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    So I checked the forums out on chrome (yuck) its bad... I don't know even know why people are still posting, maybe they don't read the replies anymore :D


    [​IMG]

    In other news I checked out Vivaldi the chromium fork, is getting better.. its like a less S***/ugly version of Chrome with more built in customization/options.. nothing compared to Firefox+extensions, but still fast for somethings. And you can still use the same chrome extensions for it, figured I'd mention it as Goolag really are S*** and rather see its best bits forked and improved :)
     
  21. and-poulsen

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    @Player7 How does it look on the Google Font website? Perhaps your computer should clean its room and sort itself out.
     
  22. Quatum1000

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    Comparing too Google the forum used any Roboto medium and not 14 px regular. So it's weight heavy blury because of the wrong body-mass-index Dr. Inspector told us.
     
  23. Player7

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    The Goolag font website shows pretty much the same in all browsers -no difference.. the problem with the font is your side, aside from the difference in font weight.. I personally its just a bad font choice for large amount of message text that people on forums read and write alot of.

    Infact the blog site font .. overly large, often have to zoom out the page a few times, so 70%.. this oversized font madness and huge padded spaces with layouts like the blog is just off putting not to mention the extra scrolling every sentence. Maybe at 4k resolution it doesn't suck as much, but I'd say large portion of visitors to the site are still using 1080p resolution. Unless they like kindergarten age adults who can't see good maybe, I dunno :)
     
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  24. Quatum1000

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    The most web guys using 10" iPad pro at 4k building some hypeish solutions in restaurants.
    So for real, the best solution !and to have a solution! is to use the stylish plug.